If your mind starts to wander back to the 2016 presidential election while watching Emma Stone’s Billie Jean King face-off with Steve Carrell’s Bobby Riggs in Battle of the Sexes, you wouldn’t be alone.

The film details the events leading up to the famous titular 1973 match, which found Riggs, a burnt-out tennis champ and self-proclaimed “chauvinist pig,” challenging the world’s number one female player in an attempt to prove men were superior to women. King was an outspoken advocate for equal pay, while Riggs became a mouthpiece for sexism and misogyny; and it’s not hard to see the parallels to today and the heated political rivalry between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

When I hopped on the phone with co-directors Valerie Faris and Jonathan Dayton (Little Miss Sunshine, Ruby Sparks), Faris told me she originally hoped the film would be politically relevant for other reasons — if America had its first female president. But their film isn’t all politics; Battle of the Sexes, written by Simon Beaufoy, spends the majority of its runtime off the tennis court and with Stone’s King as she meets and falls for a woman for the first time (Andrea Riseborough as Marilyn Bennet). The directors told me why King’s personal life, and how it affected her public image, was the main thing that drew them to the project.

I really enjoyed this and I left feeling kind of uplifted by it, honestly.

Faris: That’s surprising!

Dayton: Well no, thank you. I appreciate you saying that because we obviously want people to — we want to express a point of view but we also want people to embrace the film and feel hopeful.

Faris: It’s funny because I think in some ways it’s depressing in that, we haven’t really necessarily come that far. But also a lot of things have changed for the better. But I’m interested in that you say it’s uplifting. That’s interesting.

Dayton: I think that any time you see someone accomplish something –

Faris: Is it the [title] cards? I wonder if knowing that Billie Jean has spent her life working for these causes and has accomplished a lot in her life — it’s interesting how the story ends in sort of an unresolved place, but then the cards kind of give you that sense that things got better.

Right. Watching it feels incredibly relevant today in light of Clinton and Trump. We of course haven’t come that far and are still dealing with the same rampant issues of sexism. But I’m curious if that political relevance was on your mind when making this, or was it a coincidence that the film is opening now?

Dayton: Well, I think everyone felt that it was time to tell this story again. There were actually three different productions all racing against each other to tell this story and we won that battle. But I think none of us, no one knew how it would be so timely. We started in 2015 and —

Faris: We actually thought it would be timely in that we thought there was a good chance that there’d be a woman for president. So I think that was sort of the initial thought of “Oh, this will be timely, it’ll be most likely a woman running against a man and it will be its own battle of the sexes.” But I think what’s been interesting is, over the course of editing it and now showing it, there’s just a whole new light cast on it, or maybe darkness cast on it. It’s like, the comparisons to and the kind of sexism that we’ve all experienced recently from a presidential candidate, that we never anticipated. And aren’t happy about. [Laughs]

Do you hope the film can help audiences ruminate on the fact that we haven’t come that far? What’s the message you aim to leave people with?

Dayton: I do think that it kind of circles back to what you said, which is why we appreciate what you began with, which is, we want to inspire people and lift them up, even though there is a huge distance we need to travel. I think we wanted to entertain people. We love the movie theater experience. There’s nothing like seeing a film with a group of people, especially when it’s about something. So, hopefully this is a conversation starter.

Faris: Yeah, without a particular message, but more that you felt something during the movie and maybe it made you want to talk about some of these issues. I guess that’s sort of what you hope for, to get the conversation going.

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There’s also a great sense of humor in the movie. It really invites us to laugh at Bobby Riggs and all of his antics.

Faris: He’s an entertainer.

Dayton: And Billie Jean is laughing at him. One of the things that’s funny, we were just with Billie Jean this afternoon and we were talking about how you always need to respect your opponent. And Billie Jean thought highly of Bobby. She disagreed very much with the chauvinism, but she knew that he was a great athlete.

Faris: She says she beat him because she respected him, which I thought was so interesting. She respected him enough to really take him seriously in terms of, she wasn’t going to walk onto that court not knowing what kind of player he was, and know exactly how she was going to take him down. That’s what’s so great about her. And really, she did the same thing with Jack Kramer. She had her argument for him. She didn’t just go and — it wasn’t a shouting match. She was like, “Here are the reasons why I don’t want you to commentate [the match]. Here’s the reason why we should be paid the same.”

Dayton: She engaged.

Faris: Yeah, she engages, that’s what she does. She’s amazing when you see her speak. She’s just so good at engaging people and she puts out, she’s a giver and a doer.

Did that mentality of respecting your opponent play into the way that you portrayed Riggs and humanized that character?

Faris: Definitely.

Dayton: Absolutely. We didn’t want to reduce Bobby Riggs to just a bad guy. We wanted to keep the complexity of that character. It’s not to forgive him, but it’s just to see him —

Faris: When you study a character, when you’re making a film, you want to understand the character, like what makes them tick? What we felt from Bobby was, this guy was really just looking for a way back into the action. His career was kind of over and he loved being in the spotlight. So this was just something he could exploit in order to get back into the conversation, to be a part of the action.

Dayton: To feel significant.

One of the things I really loved about the movie is how much it focuses on Billie Jean exploring her sexuality and meeting Andrea Riseborough’s Marilyn.

Faris: That was really why we wanted to tell this story. It was part of the story that we didn’t know going into it. We were alive during the Battle of the Sexes, but that story hadn’t really been told. We thought, this is such an important part of her story. So it was kind of a nice idea, we could make a sports movie that also had this incredible love story within it.

Dayton: There are so many ways in which Billie Jean is a hero. We felt that her courage to be her authentic self and just to act on her desires was a really important thing to show.

Faris: Especially during a time when she was under so much pressure and everybody was watching her. She didn’t let that stop her.

Andrea Riseborough and Emma Stone in 'Battle of the Sexes' (Fox Searchlight)

You two get a really intimate performance out of Emma Stone that touches on the personal and private aspects of Billie Jean’s life. Was that informed by spending time with the real Billie Jean?

Dayton: A little bit, but it’s funny, because Billie Jean at 74 is a fully formed amazing person. And all those years are evident when you meet her. But at 29 she was very confused —

Faris: And very much in the closet. I mean, that’s what was interesting. Once we learned this, that, oh my god, she was having an affair all this time and yet publicly she was married, she was hesitant to even call herself a feminist. It was a very different time in that way and I think that was a really powerful part of this story for us, that having to balance her public image with her private life and what was really going on during all of this.

Do you think audiences who saw the match in real-time and only got to know Billie Jean through the media will leave this movie with a better understanding of that balance between her personal and public life?

Dayton: Yeah, that’s been really fun, to see people who remember the match and go, “I had no idea!”

Faris: If you watch the original match, Marilyn is actually on the side of the court, she’s sitting right near Larry.

Dayton: If you see the match also, when Billie Jean wins she’s not joyous. She’s just spent. There’s something going on there and that was really interesting to us, that in this victory there’s still —

Faris: It wasn’t pure triumph. She still had a long way to go personally in her life. I think that was interesting to us. It was another 13 years before she divorced Larry.

Dayton: Yeah. Still so much sort of weariness. That really led us to dig into this story.

Battle of the Sexes opens September 22.

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